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romney, governor romney, is able to say something like, well, all pre-existing conditions will be covered and then have his guy go out later that night and tell a few people who read the newspapers, oh, it doesn't really cover you unless you're already covered which doesn't mean anything. your thoughts, ron. will television deceive? >> yes, television does deceive. candidates deceive. it's one of the most disturbing aspects of this campaign, particularly if romney were to win. it would set a standard of dishonesty for all campaigns going forward that would be really hard to meet. going into the next debate, i have been listening to your discussions thus far today, and i agree with you, you don't want obama to relitigate the last debate and i agree he has to attack romney the man. it's not about rearguing the medicare issue as such. it's about revealing the fact that romney has been all over the map on various issues, will say anything on a given day to get through the day, and he has to be unmasked that way. >> well, that's what i would do, michelle. the facts are that romney believes bas
romney, governor romney, is able to say something like, well, all pre-existing conditions will be covered and then have his guy go out later that night and tell a few people who read the newspapers, oh, it doesn't really cover you unless you're already covered which doesn't mean anything. your thoughts, ron. will television deceive? >> yes, television does deceive. candidates deceive. it's one of the most disturbing aspects of this campaign, particularly if romney were to win. it would...
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hammered governor romney on his shape shifting. >> a few nights ago, suddenly a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me and said he's changing his plan. he's just going to pretend it doesn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> when the storm clouds clear, which romney will voters remember? the bone dry severe conservative or the misty massachusetts moderate? the paradox of the mittens, a multi volume extravaganza continues. john heilemann, what do we make, what do you specifically make, of this politico inside dope that says ann and tagg romney have been instrumental in this recalibrated mitt romney? >> i never want to take exception that anybody mike allen and jim vandehei write but maybe there's a straining to find a more biz zanty explanation than is necessarily the case. to question that ann romney was unhawpe with what was happening to her husband as any reasonable wife would be, given the way he was being portrayed and allowing people to portray himself. there's, you know, losing campaign, whi
hammered governor romney on his shape shifting. >> a few nights ago, suddenly a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me and said he's changing his plan. he's just going to pretend it doesn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> when the storm clouds clear, which romney will voters remember? the bone dry severe conservative or the misty massachusetts moderate? the paradox of the mittens, a multi...
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so, we think that that continuation of a huge move by romney is not in the data. so, overall, we would say it's looking like the race is, among registered voters, still tilting slightly in obama's direction. among likely voters, which we'll begin reporting out today, we think that romney will probably have an even orvery, very slight lead. >> so, based on what you're looking at, and i know you're not reporting the full numbers until 1:00, but based on the raw data you're looking at, has the president regained what he lost after the debate? is he just closing some of what he lost? how would you characterize it? >> well, that's a good question. i would say that obama has gained back some of what he has lost but has not gained back to where he was prior to the debate when he was ahead by five points among registered voters. i would say since that it looks like he's gained some of it back but not all of it. so, we will see. every day we get new data in. but certainly, i don't think that romney has established and then been able to keep the very strong position that he
so, we think that that continuation of a huge move by romney is not in the data. so, overall, we would say it's looking like the race is, among registered voters, still tilting slightly in obama's direction. among likely voters, which we'll begin reporting out today, we think that romney will probably have an even orvery, very slight lead. >> so, based on what you're looking at, and i know you're not reporting the full numbers until 1:00, but based on the raw data you're looking at, has...
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romney said something the other night that none of you people caught or didn't care to comment about. i mean the media. when he talked about cutting back on government, he made it very clear he's going to do it by attrition, because he understands, if he does it any other way, he will only aggravate the economic problems we have. so as people quit and retire, but one more thing i would urge you, if you work in the department of commerce and they have, they don't need you, and you, the department of transportation and there's an opening there, whether you have whatever the hell it is, gs number whatever it is, you're given the chance to go to that job or you're told you're being exited. there's a lot of ways that can be done and it will be done. the thing i feel confident about is this man has the experience of having done it many times before. >> and watching it, it seems like it's what it seemed like, too, didn't it? >> what? >> watching the debate. >> of course. well one guy didn't have the crib sheet, he didn't have the teleprompter so he was in trouble automatically. the second th
romney said something the other night that none of you people caught or didn't care to comment about. i mean the media. when he talked about cutting back on government, he made it very clear he's going to do it by attrition, because he understands, if he does it any other way, he will only aggravate the economic problems we have. so as people quit and retire, but one more thing i would urge you, if you work in the department of commerce and they have, they don't need you, and you, the...
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if romney would have had a bad night, fox news would have declared him the winner no doubt about it. we'll talk about that is a whole lot more on the "full court press." but first it's lisa ferguson. good morning. >> hey bill, good morning, everyone. big bird is enjoying extra time in the spotlight this week and he is at it again in this newed a from the obama campaign. it compares big bird to economic criminals like bernie madoff. >> big yellow a menace to our society. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> the ad then praises romney for taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. the president is really hammering romney on this whole big bird comment. >> obama: you didn't know this but for all of you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. >> although romney arguably performed better during the debate, he is real taking heat for taking on pbs. and plus many moms are saying they are not comfortable voting for romney when he wants to cut their kids' programming. insiders say the rom nis were incredibly frustrat
if romney would have had a bad night, fox news would have declared him the winner no doubt about it. we'll talk about that is a whole lot more on the "full court press." but first it's lisa ferguson. good morning. >> hey bill, good morning, everyone. big bird is enjoying extra time in the spotlight this week and he is at it again in this newed a from the obama campaign. it compares big bird to economic criminals like bernie madoff. >> big yellow a menace to our society....
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romney showed his willingness to say whatever would get him through the night. shifting his positions to deals that he's made with the right, positioning himself just where it works, with the voter. it reminds me of bill murray's character in groundhog day. every day he gets up to the same day, comes up with a new pitch based on what she said about her likes and dislikes the day before. this is the romney approach. sell whatever people are willing to buy. if that causes trouble, say you're against any cuts in medicare. get it? sell big tax cuts to the job creators, those in the country with the most money. if that causes trouble, just deny it. say you don't know nothing about tax cuts for the rich. pretend you never said a word about giving a break to those job creators. get it? say that you want the auto industry to go bankrupt. say you don't care about 47% of the country that doesn't care about social security. then when that 47% is watching you, say that your heart is bleeding for them. that's right, just like on groundhog day, listening for clues of what doe
romney showed his willingness to say whatever would get him through the night. shifting his positions to deals that he's made with the right, positioning himself just where it works, with the voter. it reminds me of bill murray's character in groundhog day. every day he gets up to the same day, comes up with a new pitch based on what she said about her likes and dislikes the day before. this is the romney approach. sell whatever people are willing to buy. if that causes trouble, say you're...
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but first from fox this monday night, governor mitt romney says america is facing more threats tonight than when president obama took office. the republican nominee for the presidency accusing our current president of leading from behind, saying and i quote, hope is not a strategy. governor romney went after the president on foreign policy today in a speech at the virginia military institute. >> i believe that if america doesn't lead, others will. others who don't share our interests and our values and the world would grow darker for our friends and for us. america's security and the cause of freedom cannot afford four more years like the last four. >> shep: his campaign was firing back before governor romney even said a single word. running a new ad, quoting critics who call the governor's foreign policy wreckless and amateurish. a new gallup poll shows governor romney gaining on the president since their first debate last week. before the debate, the president had a five-point lead in the poll and now they're dead even. look at this poll from the pugh research center, this out this a
but first from fox this monday night, governor mitt romney says america is facing more threats tonight than when president obama took office. the republican nominee for the presidency accusing our current president of leading from behind, saying and i quote, hope is not a strategy. governor romney went after the president on foreign policy today in a speech at the virginia military institute. >> i believe that if america doesn't lead, others will. others who don't share our interests and...
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and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get away with the actual debate. it wasn't too funny. and i said it would cause him problems. >> no doubt, maitt romney was a his best tonight but it's not good enough. when you take what he said tonight and compare it to his proposals, to what he has said, to what he's represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what he said tonight. so how are we going to be impressed with someone that made a very passionate and a very articulate series of lies tonight? there's been so much focus on the president's debate performance but i continue to believe that governor romney did serious damage to his candidacy that n
and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get...
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let's begin with the hidden man, with mitt romney. let me play a little bit. this is part of an interview with his wife, ann. >> he loves his dad, respects his dad. doesn't want to do anything that would not make his father proud. >> now, romney's dad was a powerful auto executive, a moderate republican governor, did his father, the role of his father really cast a big shadow over mitt romney's early years now, and if so, how so? >> it is a tremendous burden and promise at the same time. mitt romney grew up in a wonderful family, many generations of mormons where the ethos is parenting is the most important thing you do. george romney was an unbelievable role model, successful auto executive, and a great community person. and a politician who was very successful as a governor. he fought barry goldwater at the 1964 republican convention, and mitt had a very strong relationship with him, stronger than almost any of his other siblings, it is really interesting to imagine what mitt romney must think about now and we talked to ann in our film, and we talked to many
let's begin with the hidden man, with mitt romney. let me play a little bit. this is part of an interview with his wife, ann. >> he loves his dad, respects his dad. doesn't want to do anything that would not make his father proud. >> now, romney's dad was a powerful auto executive, a moderate republican governor, did his father, the role of his father really cast a big shadow over mitt romney's early years now, and if so, how so? >> it is a tremendous burden and promise at the...
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they perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. >> that was president obama during a los angeles fund-raiser last night acknowledging that his debate performance didn't live up to hollywood standards. governor romney is trying to keep his debate act alive shedding his wooden image for a more human mitt. he told the emotional story of helping a young member of the mormon church who was dying of leukemia. >> through all this david had the kind of strength and courage and maturity you see in so many of our young people, so many of the people in this great nation of ours. i thought of the wonderful slogan later, clear eyes, full heart, can't lose. >> joining the panel now ar ari melver of the nation and nicholas cantasori of the new york times t. yes. >> that's who he is. >> let's talk about the strategy. the president, just forget about wednesday. think about friday. mitt romney forget about friday, remember wednesday. who is selling themselves better this week in your opinion? >> mitt romney is doing a gr
they perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. >> that was president obama during a los angeles fund-raiser last night acknowledging that his debate performance didn't live up to hollywood standards. governor romney is trying to keep his debate act alive shedding his wooden image for a more human mitt. he told the emotional story of helping a young member of the mormon church who was dying of leukemia. >> through all this david had the kind of strength and...
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for our generation we saw that on mitt romney wednesday night, that's not our problem is big bird. >> there's a little bit of a misconception about "the daily show." the people who tune in wouldn't get the jokes if they didn't have some passing familiarity with the headlines. but, of course, a lot of people do rely on jon stewart and stephen colbert and "saturday night live" for that matter which we saw lampooning the president over the weekend for their political fix. we in the beltway bubble tend to forget not everybody's watching all the political shows. this is a way of breaking through the static and serving up some actual political substance by coating it with the patent of comedy. >> howard kurtz this morning. thanks for being with us. >>> been a strong year for the stock market. is the rally over? christine romans will break down what's going on with stocks. exclusive new cnn money survey is straight ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer
for our generation we saw that on mitt romney wednesday night, that's not our problem is big bird. >> there's a little bit of a misconception about "the daily show." the people who tune in wouldn't get the jokes if they didn't have some passing familiarity with the headlines. but, of course, a lot of people do rely on jon stewart and stephen colbert and "saturday night live" for that matter which we saw lampooning the president over the weekend for their political fix....
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the basic formula for job creation and what people saw the other night was governor romney, a man who is confident in his plan, who has a plan, and who wants to lead this country forward. and so the majority of people who i talked to in ho had is backed up by the polls think john kasich is responsible for that; not the president. >> pete: attorney general, we'll leave it there and let us know as things go on in ohio. keep us up to date. we appreciate it and thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> pete: think terror training camps are only located in places like pakistan? think again. our next guest has proof that radical muslims are train to go wage jihad right here in our own backyard. and we've seen a lot of nascar crashes. but this one is unbelievable. what triggered this massive pileup ahead. look at that [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >> p
the basic formula for job creation and what people saw the other night was governor romney, a man who is confident in his plan, who has a plan, and who wants to lead this country forward. and so the majority of people who i talked to in ho had is backed up by the polls think john kasich is responsible for that; not the president. >> pete: attorney general, we'll leave it there and let us know as things go on in ohio. keep us up to date. we appreciate it and thank you for your service....
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i had a white board last night. i should have brought it. there is a $4. trillion in revenue. you cut according to mitt romney's own plan there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts. we'll end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker, or anybody can't sit here and say, that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by 4.8 trillion. this is math. >> i'll say it right now. >> moderates, liberals, everybody says here is the problem. you guys won't give him any credit for closing loopholes because like you guys he won't name the loopholes. why? you'll attack him for doing it. >> this is important. >> if there is substance -- you keep bringing up substance. let me hear some obama substance. your substance is to attack romney. that's the whole campaign. where was the president's vision? if he had a couple of sharp ideas, he would have had a better debate. >> the president talked about his health care plan, and mitt romney said my health care plan will do the same thing. >> i do think there's an iss
i had a white board last night. i should have brought it. there is a $4. trillion in revenue. you cut according to mitt romney's own plan there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts. we'll end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker, or anybody can't sit here and say, that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by 4.8 trillion. this is math. >> i'll say it right now. >> moderates, liberals,...
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mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it seems like he's -- i think ross is right. he's the new leader of the republican party. >> he demonstrated leadership on the ticket, not only is his name first on the ticket, but when asked about paul ryan's plan, he indicated that i'm the leader on this ticket, and we're going to follow what i want to do, one. two, you're going to hear leading republicans who have disagreed with him, those in the congress, in the senate who have insisted that no revenue be a part of any long-term spending control bill in the congress. none of them have said a word. as a matter of fac
mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it...
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said on the stage wednesday night was we'd be bringing down rates but you shouldn't expect any type of a tax cut because he's going to get rid of deductions, too, so it would be revenue neutral. >> that is inconsistent with everything he said up to wednesday night. >> no. >> but number two, no, joe, it is. >> it's that non-partisan study found with all those assumptions they didn't have anything that he said so they made all these assumptions, ed. >> he said we would sign the ryan budget, the ryan budget calls for across the board 20% tax cut but hear me out. it's not the tax cut i'm focusing on. when you cut taxes, or leave the bush tax cuts in place, et cetera, and get rid of regulations, that's supposed to generate growth in the economy. well, let the record show in the last six years a60 years our te years of job creation occurred when the marginal tax rate was over 50%. >> oh my god. >> of the top 20 and you can look that up, joe. >> i know, but -- >> we had the best -- >> same unemployment rate for the eight years of clinton as for the eight years of bush, 5.2, 5.3. >> but i'm
said on the stage wednesday night was we'd be bringing down rates but you shouldn't expect any type of a tax cut because he's going to get rid of deductions, too, so it would be revenue neutral. >> that is inconsistent with everything he said up to wednesday night. >> no. >> but number two, no, joe, it is. >> it's that non-partisan study found with all those assumptions they didn't have anything that he said so they made all these assumptions, ed. >> he said we...
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has mitt romney upended this race? what we're learning from a key swing state this morning. >>> and a wedding to remember for all the wrong reasons. a wild brawl breaks out in front of the bride. it is all caught on camera. what a terrible way to begin a marriage. good morning to you. i'm zoraida sambolin. >> and i'm john berman. we begin with props. why? we're talking about the weather. it is freaking cold out here. this calendar says october 12th. but forget this. it's freezing. in a huge chunk of the country. >> it is cold out there. the cold snap is gripping two-thirds of the country. dozens of cities saw record lows. including sioux city, iowa, bottoming out at 15. scottsbluff, nebraska, 21 degrees. and tulsa, oklahoma, scraping the freezing mark at 32 degrees. >> all this despite the fact that that calendar i held up says october. it is awful. but there's warmth or light at the end of the tunnel. we're going to bring in alexandra steele. when is the warmth coming? you still use a calendar? good morning, everyone.
has mitt romney upended this race? what we're learning from a key swing state this morning. >>> and a wedding to remember for all the wrong reasons. a wild brawl breaks out in front of the bride. it is all caught on camera. what a terrible way to begin a marriage. good morning to you. i'm zoraida sambolin. >> and i'm john berman. we begin with props. why? we're talking about the weather. it is freaking cold out here. this calendar says october 12th. but forget this. it's...
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the mitt romney we saw on wednesday night, we have to see it again and again and again. and his campaign, greg, needs to make us see him. we are a little stressed in analyzing this race that since thursday morning they are not capitalizing well enough. their tv ads are not running clips from the debate highlighting the great performance. it is not on the ads. >> it has changed a little bit. i want to ask you about the performants because people say well, that was not really president obama, he was off the game. if you actually watch president obama without a teleprompter in news conferences, he fumbles, stumbles and mumbles, he goes on and on like a recovery and he never answered the question. >> that is true. he did not draw a clear distinction between him record and the positions that governor romney has taken. john is right, he did not make the kind of charges he has made successfully about cutting medicare and medicaid, social security. the bottom line, romney was able to move to the center, obama fell apart, i think, even worse than you are saying. he looked like he
the mitt romney we saw on wednesday night, we have to see it again and again and again. and his campaign, greg, needs to make us see him. we are a little stressed in analyzing this race that since thursday morning they are not capitalizing well enough. their tv ads are not running clips from the debate highlighting the great performance. it is not on the ads. >> it has changed a little bit. i want to ask you about the performants because people say well, that was not really president...
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i bought a whiteboard last night. i should have brought it there's a $4.8 trillion reduction in revenue, okay? according to mitt romney's own plan. there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts, we're going to end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker or anybody can sit here and say that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by $4.8 trillion. >> i'll say it i'll say it. >> moderates, levels, everybody says here's the problem, you guys won't give them any credit for closing loopholes. he won't name the loopholes, you're attacking him for not giving you the target and you tack him when you get the target. >> and it's like admitting that the substance doesn't match up. >> if there's substance, why do, you keep bringing up substance. let me hear some obama substance. your substance is always to attack romney. >> if he had a couple of sharp ideas and looked like he liked the job, he would have had a much better debate. >> mitt romney
i bought a whiteboard last night. i should have brought it there's a $4.8 trillion reduction in revenue, okay? according to mitt romney's own plan. there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts, we're going to end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker or anybody can sit here and say that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by $4.8 trillion. >> i'll say it i'll say it. >> moderates, levels,...
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night on style. >> it looked lielg romney wanted to be there and obama didn't want to be there. >> the challenger, mitt romney seemed more presidential than the president, more in command of miss facts, gums, principles. >> that was the frustration wrchl was the president tonight. >> the other media exaggerating the extent of the president's loss and ignoring the candidate's half truths in the process. fox news hypes the conservative website video of barack obama as a rashlgly charged revelation. >> on the eve of the first prez denl chal debate the first bomb is about to d dropped for the 2012 presidential white house. >> it was covered at the time. a right wing commentators trying to portray their president as an angry black man. plus the other big debate, jon stewart versus bill o'reilly. >> income redistribution. do you believe in it? >> do you? >> no. i asked first. >> it's a complicated one. i believe in social security. do you? >> yes, absolutely. >> so we're both socialists. >> no, no. >> was this clash of titan television or was it shtick? i'm howard kurtz and this is "reliable
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how much difference did governor romney make wednesday night? >> well, look, george, i think governor romney had a masterful theatrical performance just this past week, but the underpinnings and foundation of that performance were fundamentally dishonest. look, he walked away from the central tenet of his economic theory by saying he had no idea what the president was talking about. ten minutes after the debate even his own staff is walking back his answers on health care and pre-existing conditions, so, look, i don't want to take anything away from what i think again was a masterful, masterful performance by governor romney but i don't think governor romney's positions have changed and fundamentally i don't think the campaign changed. >> what happened to the president wednesday night? you've seen all the reviews, and i'm sure the president has seen the reviews, as well. let's look at that "new yorker" cover there, it shows the empty podium next to mitt romney. the basic line is the president didn't show up on wednesday night. i just want to kno
how much difference did governor romney make wednesday night? >> well, look, george, i think governor romney had a masterful theatrical performance just this past week, but the underpinnings and foundation of that performance were fundamentally dishonest. look, he walked away from the central tenet of his economic theory by saying he had no idea what the president was talking about. ten minutes after the debate even his own staff is walking back his answers on health care and pre-existing...
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we will no doubt see evidence of that bromance unfold thursday night. on the other hand, mitt romney's put paul ryan in the position where he has to defend statements like this. >> . >> so it feels like passionate romance and a marriage of convenience here between these two. is that the key thing that a vp has to be is basically champion for his principal? is that what people are looking for in the vp debate? >> unless the vp think they don't have much of a shot. in which case he has to think ahead to the next election cycle. it's clear to me what's what paul ryan is doing. so he should be. >> the interesting thing here, way back when they put ryan on the ticket, i thought i understood why. i thought the calculation was romney looked and said all summer long, i've been behind. this isn't budging. i need something dramatic here. i i'm going to run on the paul ryan plan. maybe it's translated as courageous and bold. they put ryan on the ticket and panicked and said wait a minute. we can't run of these ideas. they've tried to turn paul ryan into a generic
we will no doubt see evidence of that bromance unfold thursday night. on the other hand, mitt romney's put paul ryan in the position where he has to defend statements like this. >> . >> so it feels like passionate romance and a marriage of convenience here between these two. is that the key thing that a vp has to be is basically champion for his principal? is that what people are looking for in the vp debate? >> unless the vp think they don't have much of a shot. in which case...